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    Thanks for this!! I want to know if apart from folic acid, is there any other supplements people wud take?? I've thought about Angus but do I have to take it a a certain point I my cycle or all time??
    Thanks in advance x 😉


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loola View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ink queen View Post
    Great idea ladies....

    I'll start a question

    I have 2 daughters, one who is 7 the other is 5 (18 months between)
    Came off depo in 2008, didn't ovulate since then,after test to make sure tubes etc are ok doc started me on clomid 50mg...
    Progesterone levels:
    First cycle 54.1
    Second cycle (I missed the blood test)
    Third cycle 70.4 :-D

    The only thing that I have is a bicornate uterus... But I've carried both my daughters to full term so I know that I can do it... I just got to get pregnant first!! Lol

    I've got everything crossed that this month is my month but... If it isn't has anyone ever used fertiliaid ?
    Reviews on it sound really good!

    Thanks for listening xxx


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    Fertilaid is very good for both men and women - obviously it will only help if there are issues that need to be addressed. One thing I have definitely learnt is not to mess around with supplements, if you dont really need them. I had a bad experience with Soy Isoflavones - ill talk about that another day

    So Fertilaid for women includes:

    Chasteberry or Vitex (vitex agnus-castus, chastetree berry) has been shown to stimulate the hormones involved in ovulation and restore female hormonal balance. Vitex is useful in normalizing pituitary gland functions and the balance of progesterone and estrogen levels. Vitex is often used as herbal treatment for infertility issues and is especially helpful for women with irregular menstrual cycles or a shortened luteal phase (a shortened second half of the menstrual cycle). The effectiveness of vitex increases over time with continued use.

    Red Clover (trifolium pretense) helps restore and balance hormonal function. Red Clover contains isoflavones (estrogen-like compounds) which promote estrogen production and which may enhance fertility in women and boost estrogen levels in women with estrogen deficiencies. In addition, the Red Clover contains calcium and magnesium which can relax the nervous system and improve fertility.

    Siberian Ginseng (eleutherococcus senticosus root) has been used in traditional Chinese medicine to reinforce the body's vital energy (what the Chinese call chi). Siberian ginseng may positively affect hormone levels, tone uterine muscles, support healthy uterine function, and enhance fertility.

    Ginkgo Biloba has been used in traditional medicine to treat circulatory disorders and enhance memory and recent scientific studies lend credence to Gingko claims. In addition, laboratory studies have shown that Gingko improves blood circulation and increases peripheral blood flow to the reproductive organs, maintaining healthy blood vessel tone. Gingko also performs a cleansing antioxidant function.

    PABA is a B Complex vitamin that is synthesized in the body. PABA is believed to increase the ability of estrogen to facilitate fertility and increases the ability of some infertile women to become pregnant. A clinical trial reported that 12 of 16 previously infertile women were able to become pregnant after supplementing with PABA over several months.

    Antioxidant Support: Vitamins Cand E are important vitamins and cleansing antioxidants that play a vital role in repairing damage caused by the environment, aging, and in preventing cellular damage due to oxidizing free radicals. Vitamin E is an important antioxidant central to overall reproductive health and wellness. In a preliminary human trial, infertile couples given vitamin E showed a significant increase in fertility. Other studies indicate that preconceptional vitamin supplementation can increase fertility.

    Folic Acid (vitamin B9 or Folate): Folic Acid taken prior to conception can prevent birth defects like spina bifida and neural tube defects as well as other fetal malformations like cardiac defects. FertilAid provides a "Just Right" dosage of Folic Acid for trying-to-conceive women.

    And fertilaid for men includes:

    Carnitine plays a vital role in the process of sperm development, in promoting proper maturation and morphology of sperm, and in ensuring the maintenance of sperm quality and vitality. FertilAid for Men contains an ideal dose of L-Carnitine - and in L-Carnitine's most potent form, as L-Carnitine tartrate.

    Grapeseed Extract is a vital antioxidant that scours damaging free-radicals from your system. Free radicals cause oxidative damage to the body - a literal 'rusting' of tissues and cells. This damage can impact male reproductive function and disrupt fertility health. Studies indicate that supplements rich in antioxidants can dramatically improve male reproductive health.

    Complex Antioxidant Formula: Vitamins C, E, A, and Selenium are important vitamins and cleansing antioxidants that play a key role in repairing damage caused by the environment and aging - and in preventing cellular damage due to oxidizing free radicals. Vitamin E is an important antioxidant central to overall reproductive health and wellness. In a preliminary human trial, infertile couples just given vitamin E showed a significant increase in fertility. Like Grapeseed Extract, selenium is a potent antioxidant that can help minimize oxidative damage produced by free radicals.

    Vitamin C is important in sperm formation and needed to protect sperm from free radical damage. 250mg. According to research studies, vitamin C plays a key role in male fertility and the production and maintenance of health sperm

    Maca Root and Asian Ginseng are herbal ingredients that have been scientifically demonstrated to improve sperm production and motility.

    Zinc has been shown to to have a positive effect on sperm formation, sperm motility and testosterone metabolism.30mg

    Betacarotene is a fat-soluble antioxidant that protects sperm from free radical attack. Its also a precursor to Vitamin A, a key player in ensuring proper sperm maturation. Compare with other fertility supplement brands - which contains no vitamin A.


    So I am sure that taking fertilaid would help you, though you may not need to take all that stuff. Perhaps you could just start taking multi vits or and get your OH to take Zinc & Selenium more importantly than anything else! it would be a lot cheaper too! Good luck!
    I've used Fertilaid and to be honest I think its over priced and targeted at us vulnerable ttcers who are desperate for a solutions. I had reflexology and she took a look at the ingredients they contain and the amount of agnus castus or chasteberry it contains is very small compared to the amount you can take. So I would be tempted to save yourself a lot of dosh and get down to Holland & Barratt and purchase Agnus Castus and perhaps something like starflower oil which is also suupposed to be a good hormone balancer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRed View Post
    We were silly during TTC and were using lube, which can harm the sperm (it says it on the box that if you're TTC ask your doctor). We stopped using it and we fell pregnant! not straight away, took us a while but still x
    Very good point! Thankfully somebody amazing out there did create sperm friendly lubricants such as Preseed and Concieve + both of which actually promote healthy sperm, and if you dont have much fertile cervical mucus are a gift from god. Sperm need fertile cervical fluid to swim through, up the fallopian tubes. When you have sticky or creamy cm, the sperm just cannot get up there.
    AFTER 5 YEARS TTC, FINALLY GOT A MOTHERS DAY BFP THROUGH IUI!!! baby Jacob was born on 14th November 2012.
    Sarah & Bumpin is my amazing cheerleader!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judehb View Post
    Thanks for this!! I want to know if apart from folic acid, is there any other supplements people wud take?? I've thought about Angus but do I have to take it a a certain point I my cycle or all time??
    Thanks in advance x ��


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    I dont know much about this I must admit, but can I ask how long you have been trying for and do you have regular cycles? Agnus Castus is generally for use with people who have irregular cycles, or have a short Luteal Phase, this has been known to lengthen it. Ladies with PCOS often take it too to stabilize hormones and promote ovulation. if you dont have any of those problems, I really wouldnt recommend taking it, as it could mess up your otherwise normal cycle. Hopefully some Agnus Castus users will give you a better answer!
    AFTER 5 YEARS TTC, FINALLY GOT A MOTHERS DAY BFP THROUGH IUI!!! baby Jacob was born on 14th November 2012.
    Sarah & Bumpin is my amazing cheerleader!
    I am cheering Beth M, Sarah & Bumpin, Reddybeck & Thumbelina to their super sticky BFPs




    My TTC, IUI and pregnancy diary: http://www.pregnancyforum.org.uk/sho...ilofax-Section
    My blog - Jacobs Story, our baby with Downs Syndrome http://www.pregnancyforum.org.uk/sho...95#post3584195

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judehb View Post
    Thanks for this!! I want to know if apart from folic acid, is there any other supplements people wud take?? I've thought about Angus but do I have to take it a a certain point I my cycle or all time??
    Thanks in advance x ��


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    I got my BFP after taking agnus castus i took 2 holland and barrett capsules morning and evening from cd1 until i ov'd. You must stop in the 2ww as it can harm the baby i believe. My cycles were normal tbh but my periods were heavy so i decided to take it. I have no idea if it helped with the heavy period as i fell pregnant.
    Last edited by Lorna; 30-01-2012 at 09:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loola View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRed View Post
    We were silly during TTC and were using lube, which can harm the sperm (it says it on the box that if you're TTC ask your doctor). We stopped using it and we fell pregnant! not straight away, took us a while but still x
    Very good point! Thankfully somebody amazing out there did create sperm friendly lubricants such as Preseed and Concieve + both of which actually promote healthy sperm, and if you dont have much fertile cervical mucus are a gift from god. Sperm need fertile cervical fluid to swim through, up the fallopian tubes. When you have sticky or creamy cm, the sperm just cannot get up there.
    Indeed, it seemed like my cm was perfectly fine but we were using lube because things down there are extremely tight, and we both had trouble afterwards :$:$:$ sorry for that.

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    And in case you dont know what a Luteal Phase is.....

    This is the time from ovulation until you get your next period. It pretty much stays exactly the same length each month. The amount of time leading up to ovulation can change from month to month, but the LP stays the same. You need to have an LP of at least 10 days to give the chance of the fertilised egg implanting in the uterine lining, starting the create the placenta and so on. If you have a short LP there are drugs out there that can help increase them, including Clomid, plus there are natural products to help such as Agnus Castus, and low dose (75mg) aspirin can thicken the uterine lining and therefore increase the LP length. You can also have too long an LP, which is usually classed as 16 days or more. This can be bad as your progesterone levels stay elevated for too long and can have an adverse on your fertility.

    You should visit your GP if you are concerned about your LP length.
    AFTER 5 YEARS TTC, FINALLY GOT A MOTHERS DAY BFP THROUGH IUI!!! baby Jacob was born on 14th November 2012.
    Sarah & Bumpin is my amazing cheerleader!
    I am cheering Beth M, Sarah & Bumpin, Reddybeck & Thumbelina to their super sticky BFPs




    My TTC, IUI and pregnancy diary: http://www.pregnancyforum.org.uk/sho...ilofax-Section
    My blog - Jacobs Story, our baby with Downs Syndrome http://www.pregnancyforum.org.uk/sho...95#post3584195

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    Glad you did this thread Loola!

    I'm pretty nifty with charting and am trying to get to grips with all the tests I'm having for my multiple miscarriages so may be able to help there.

    As for the supplements, as Muddles said it is best to take supplements specifically aimed at women ttc. There are some vits that you shouldn't have too much on, I think that too much vit B can lengthen your Luteal Phase giving false hope when you're late coming on!!!

    Also, with the sperm friendly lubes, I have always preferred conceive plus as there are no applicators, you can just use it as you go which is quite fun and it has got me pregnant 3 times!

    xxx

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    Did you know.....

    That even though millions of sperm are released at ejaculation (hopefully!) only a few hundred will actually make the long journey up the fallopian tubes to find the awaiting egg. If there isnt an egg there yet, they can hang around up there for up to 5 days in fertile cervical fluid waiting for it. So, you might have had some great sex on Friday night, but it may not be til Tuesday morning, when you are driving to work or whatever, that you actually conceive.
    AFTER 5 YEARS TTC, FINALLY GOT A MOTHERS DAY BFP THROUGH IUI!!! baby Jacob was born on 14th November 2012.
    Sarah & Bumpin is my amazing cheerleader!
    I am cheering Beth M, Sarah & Bumpin, Reddybeck & Thumbelina to their super sticky BFPs




    My TTC, IUI and pregnancy diary: http://www.pregnancyforum.org.uk/sho...ilofax-Section
    My blog - Jacobs Story, our baby with Downs Syndrome http://www.pregnancyforum.org.uk/sho...95#post3584195

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    This is really great. Thanks for starting it! I will be reading it all eagerly!

    X
    TTC since June 2011 . BFP on last clomid cycle.

    Beautiful baby girl born February 2015 <3

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    Oh yeah I have a question - can the spermies always get into the cervix? I have read mixed answers to this question! And if they can't, how long do they live for around your cervix (I know they live for up to 5 days in the fallopian tubes but not sure how long elsewhere!) Is this a silly question?! lol.

    x
    TTC since June 2011 . BFP on last clomid cycle.

    Beautiful baby girl born February 2015 <3

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    i was told after ds that i have a tilted cervix, could this have had anything to do with taking awhile to concieve?
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    Hello lovely people! I am happy to help with my unfortunate vast knowledge about this subject...

    So...

    Ink Queen - I agree with Macksie, these vits are a marketing ploy to target women like us, I too made the mistake of buying 'miracle' tablets until I got wise, researched what me and OH needed to take and bought them all seperately from a site called Healthspan. Much cheaper and higher dosages of certain things.

    Pruep2 - yes a tilted uterus can affect TTC (but don't panic as its not the end of the world). Try taking 'it' from behind (sorry there was no better way of putting that) or try the spooning position. Also, some schools of thought suggest that laying with legs up for hours is counter productive and getting up after 30 minutes and letting any 'excess' fluid out helps the sperm to swim. But really, tilted cervixes are not a big deal mine is too but not badly.

    CM quality
    I used to be quite a 'dry' girl... not anymore. One of the best products I take is natural organic powdered wheatgrass, taken as a shot (with squash as it tastes like grass) once per day. Good for ensuring your vagina and fluids are alkaline and sperm friendly and also great for egg quality and general well being.
    I also take Evening Primrose Oil until Ov and have noticed more... please be patient though, I have been taking these and the above for 8 months...

    Irregular Cycles
    Mine were all over the place two years ago and now I pretty much Ov day 17 and have a 31/32 day cycle. I do put it down to my excellent Reflexologist (Acupuncture will also help if you prefer, I've switched to this now ready for IVF). She is a fertility specialist which is important as she bespoke's her treatments. The treatments you have should be very, very firm - I find it rather excruciating but I am a wimp...


    Thin Womb Lining
    For my thin endometrial lining I also buy red raspberry leaf and red clover tea bags and drink these in the same cup a few times a day until Ov (with a little squash for taste) as they are very good for female fertility. I am waiting to see if there is any increase to my endometrial lining though. Be aware though that red clover is a natural plant phytoestrogen (like Soy) so could end up making estrogen levels too high if yours are already at max levels... my results were always borderline too low.



    Man gravy
    Myself and a few of us LTTCers are experts on sperm (nice!) in particular low counts and morphology issues. There could be a whole new post on supplements and lifestyle changes to improve swimmers so any specific q's please ask!

    Hope this helps???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bexycat View Post
    CM quality
    I used to be quite a 'dry' girl... not anymore. One of the best products I take is natural organic powdered wheatgrass, taken as a shot (with squash as it tastes like grass) once per day. Good for ensuring your vagina and fluids are alkaline and sperm friendly and also great for egg quality and general well being.
    Thanks Bexycat - where do you buy this from? I have the same problem and am trying EPO but havent heard of this one before.

    Also just wanted to add what a great thread this is
    Nicky xxx

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